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Into every study, a little rain must fall...
Susanna Clarke reveals a few of her likes, loves, and idiosyncrasies.

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What are your five favourite books, and why?
Emma by Jane Austen. It is the cleverest of books. I especially love the dialogue — every speech reveals the characters’ obsessions and preoccupations, yet it remains perfectly natural. Emma lacks many of the qualities that one would imagine a book needs to make it compelling. True, some fairly dramatic things happen (a young woman is torn between an illicit romance which may make her happy, and her duty which will surely make her miserable) — but the heroine manages to miss pretty much all of them — so the reader does too. The central conflict and romance is not in the least melodramatic, but it is absolutely gripping. And none of the characters is malicious. Even in Jane Austen there is usually one character with a little wickedness, but here there is only very ordinary vulgarity and selfishness.

The Man Who Was Thursday by G.K.Chesterton. It’s something like a very exciting detective novel and something like a poem and something like a theological puzzle — and most of the dialogue reads as if it were written by Oscar Wilde. Unsurprisingly it’s not much like anything else in the world. It’s very visual. The scenes are laid before you in a series of images — images that are exact, startling, simple and colourful. It’s like entering a beautiful hallucination or a benevolent nightmare. As in detective novels (and poetry and theology) the most mundane objects or actions can have immense significance. At the same time it is perfectly of its time and conveys a sense of what it was to be a certain sort of dandified English gentleman in 1908. 

Watchmen by Alan Moore. This is a graphic novel - and it’s about superheroes. Nevertheless it’s full of real characters and real situations. The first time I read it I could not put it down. I managed on very little sleep and when I had to go to work I felt physically ill until I was able to go back to it.  Moore does things in Watchmen which are impossible to do in a film or a novel without getting tricksy or arty. For example he can easily interweave two apparently unrelated stories, happening at the same time in New York - showing one in pictures, and running the dialogue of the other over the top. Of course the stories aren’t unrelated — they comment on each other and make each other deeper, darker, more moving. It is simply virtuoso..

Sherlock Holmes stories by Arthur Conan Doyle. I read all of them most years. Doyle creates a perfectly realised world and a quirky, cold, difficult hero who nevertheless is absolutely morally reliable.
CAMRA Good Beer Guide 2004. So many beers, so little time..

Who are your five favourite authors, and why?
Jane Austen who got as close to perfection as anyone can.

Alan Moore (see above) who, in the words of Jonathan Ross, causes middle-aged men (and women) to fall to their knees in comic shops, weeping in gratitude.

Charles Dickens: There is no one Dickens novel I could pick over all the others. Dickens is huge — like the sky. Pick any page of Dickens and it’s immediately recognisable as him, yet he might be doing social satire, or farce, or horror, or a psychological study of a murderer — or any combination of these. He’s always much more than you remember — more playful, more surreal, more campaigning, more sentimental, more Victorian, more good and more bad.

Neil Gaiman who is the most audacious and surprising writer. In the first comic of his I read, he emptied Hell. I was quite shocked. I thought 'Are you really allowed to do that?' Apparently you are.

Joss Whedon and other assorted writers of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Not perfect. The plots often creak. But the dialogue is wonderful and the characterisation is as almost as good. Apparently Joss Whedon starts from emotion. He asks what emotion does the viewer need to feel? and what emotion does the character need to feel? These are very good questions for any writer in writing any fiction. Get that right and your readers/viewers will want to keep reading/watching.

Who or what was your biggest influence in deciding to become a writer? What inspired you to write Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell?
Boredom, probably. And a restless, intrusive sort of imagination. I could always imagine more interesting places to be than where I was. And more interesting people than me being there. Eventually this led to making up stories and writing things down.

I always really liked magicians. I’m not even sure why — except that they know things other people don’t and they live in untidy rooms full of strange objects. In C. S. Lewis’s Narnia stories there are only two magicians. One is weak and wicked, and the other barely gets two lines of dialogue. But they both fascinated me. One (the weak one) has a tray of magic rings, green and yellow, as shiny and bright as sweets. They’re magic, they’re jewelry and they look like scrummy sweets. What’s not to like?  In Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell I wanted to create the most convincing story of magic and magicians that I could. The closest model was Ursula Le Guin’s Earthsea stories. While you’re reading them, magic seems perfectly real. You feel it must exist and it must be just as Le Guin describes.

It seemed to me that you make magic real by making it a little prosaic, a little difficult and disappointing — never quite as glamorous as the other characters imagine. As one of the characters says in Strange & Norrell: "Magic! Do not speak to me of magic! It is just like everything else, full of setbacks and disappointments." That’s a very key statement.

Were Jonathan Strange, Mr Norrell and the Raven King modeled after any historical figures?
Not really. Their antecedents are mostly literary. Strange has a touch of Byron in him, I suppose, and a little of the eighteenth-century rakes — Valmont in Les Liaisons Dangereuses and so forth. I wanted him to have a little wickedness in him — or the potential for wickedness, at any rate.

The Raven King had an odd genesis. Ursula Le Guin has a magician in the Earthsea trilogy who has no name: the Grey Mage of Paln, whose magic was so dubious, his name was forgotten. And there’s a magician in The Lord of the Rings, right at the very end, who comes out of Mordor to do battle against our heroes, and no one knows his name because he himself has forgotten it. I thought this was rather cool, and when I was developing my magicians, I wanted one without a name. Unfortunately I hadn’t quite understood what would happen if I had a major character without a name. The consequence has been that he has acquired more names than most people: the Raven King, John Uskglass, the Black King, the King of the North and a fairy name that no one can pronounce.

Mr. Norrell is more difficult. The only person I can think of that he might be based on is me. We share the same hobbies: staying at home, surrounded by books and not answering the phone. I think I got him originally from a jigsaw puzzle. It was a really great jigsaw with a picture of a huge library and two or three old gentlemen with eighteenth-century wigs reading books. I carried the image of that library around in my head for years until I knew what to do with it.

How do you feel knowing your book is being touted as the next Harry Potter or Harry Potter for adults?
I don’t take it very seriously. I don’t think there ever could be another Harry Potter — it’s such a unique phenomenon. And I don’t think there could ever be an adult Harry Potter. Harry Potter reaches into children’s imagination and takes them over. It enchants them. It would be wonderful to think that any of my readers might be enchanted in the same way. But I think it’s harder for adults to be enchanted — it’s hard for them to switch off their critical faculties and just be swept along by the story.

Comparisons with other books are useful as rough guidelines for readers. If you like Harry Potter/Jane Austen/The Quincunx/Instance of the Fingerpost, then maybe you’ll like this — or maybe you won’t. Readers are very sharp people — they’ll know how to take such claims.

How long did it take you to write Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell? How much historical research did you have to do?
It took rather more than ten years, which is a crazy amount of time to spend on anything — except building a cathedral, growing a garden or educating a child.

I did a lot of historical research, obviously, particularly politics and military history, and stuff about London and Venice. I enjoyed the military history much more than I expected. There are many, many eyewitness accounts of battles and campaigning, which make military much more immediate and vital than other kinds of history — you can easily discover what it felt like to be a soldier and what their everyday concerns were. Some of the people I came upon in the research made it into the book as minor characters: the exploring officer, Colquhoun Grant, and the chaplain, Samuel Briscall, for instance. Samuel Briscall was a great character to research. As far as I could tell there’s only ever been one article written about him. It’s about four pages long. I found it, read it — research done! So much easier than Wellington.

When it comes to the subtleties of Regency social behavior, however, you can’t do better than read Jane Austen. She observed people so closely and picked apart her characters’ motivations with such skill.

Do you see any evidence of magic in the world today?
Hmm. Yes. No. Not sure.

In terms of whether I believe magic really exists, the answer would have to be no. The magic in Strange & Norrell is purely literary. It’s not based on the work of actual magicians of the time. (I read a book about eighteenth/nineteenth-century occult scholarship recently; it was very dull and rather hard to follow.)

On a purely personal level, England sometimes does seem like a magical place to me, in the sense that certain places, certain landscapes resonate with me in ways I can’t quite account for. Dark winter woods are just as creepy as they ever were — and you’re just as likely to get lost in them.

So how important is England to Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell?
Before I started writing Strange & Norrell, I lived abroad for a couple of years, in Spain and Italy. One of the reasons I came back to England was that I felt I needed to be here to write. (Which is sort of odd, because I don’t go outside and look at England half so often as I should.) I always intended that Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell should be a very English book and convey some of the magic of England as I understood it. But it ended up more of an urban book that I’d imagined. Winter is important to Strange & Norrell too. The mood is very wintry. I realized after I’d finished that I’d written a book that spans ten years but which takes place almost entirely in winter.

Do you have a favorite character?
Strange, Norrell and I are like three people who’ve worked very closely together for a long time: We know each other a little too well and we don’t really want to socialize together. My favorite character is probably Childermass. He’s the one I’d most happily meet at the pub and have a drink with. He was meant to be a villain at the beginning, but I realized that he’s more complex than that. I love that he’s so subversive and independent — but he’s also (I hope) a man of his period. He begins as a servant and, although he’s very bright, he knows he can’t expect much more from life, so he sort of makes do with his position.

What are you reading now?
I’m re-reading Bleak House and I’m reading lots of beginner’s stuff on Ancient Egyptian Gods and the discovery of Ancient Egypt in the early nineteenth century.

What is the most overrated book you’ve ever read?
Well, I was going to say that I’m not keen on John Fowles and George Bernard Shaw, but last week a friend convinced me I haven’t given GBS a fair trial. True, his characters all speak from intellectual conviction and never from emotion, but I suppose there’s room in the world for characters like that. She pointed out that they are all very clever and say things that both true and original. I dare say someone could convince me of the virtues of John Fowles, so pass.

If you could require everyone to read just one book what would it be?
I don’t believe in a canon. I don’t believe in prescribing books for people. You risk turning books into duties and encourage people to hate the poor authors. It’s better just to let people read and find their own treasures. Find the books that feed your own inner life, excite you and make you dream. It might be something I hate — that’s fine.

What's the best thing you’ve ever written?
Not a clue. I always worry it may have been the first or second story I ever wrote. I once did a reading of one of my short stories. A thin, grey woman in the front row told me that she had never liked anything I wrote as much as the first story I ever wrote. Now she sits in the front row of my brain, explaining helpfully every now and then that nothing I wrote will ever be as good as that first story.

What’s the last piece of your writing that you hated and threw in the wastepaper bin and why?
I hardly ever throw things away. I hardly ever sit down, write a whole piece, finish it and then assess it. I tend to write I write in an odd, impressionistic, flow-of-consciousness sort of way. Over weeks or months I build up a story or a chapter from scraps of sentences, scraps of dialogue. I go over and over it until it’s done. The whole process is a bit like taking dictation from someone in a room two doors down the corridor. I only hear fragments of what they’re saying, so I have to go over and over the same ground until I have all of it. It takes time.

If I do end up cutting something from an almost finished piece of writing, it’s usually my favourite part. It means I got carried away talking about something that fascinates me, but which interferes with the proper flow of the story.

What’s next for you? What’s next for Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell?
The next book will be set in the same world and will probably start a few years after Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell finishes. I feel very much at home in the early nineteenth century and am not inclined to leave it. I doubt that the new book will be a sequel in the strictest sense. There are new characters to be introduced, though probably some old friends will appear too. I’d like to move down the social scale a bit. Strange and Norrell were both rich, with pots of money and big estates. Some of the characters in the second book have to struggle a bit harder to keep body and soul together. I expect there’ll be more about John Uskglass, the Raven King, and about how magic develops in England.

Is there any particular ritual involved in your writing process (favourite pen, lucky charm, south-facing window)?
I can write most places. I particularly like writing on trains. Being between places is quite liberating and looking out of the window, watching a procession of landscapes and random-ish objects is very good for stories. I like darkened rooms too — and lamplight — and the sound of rain. On sunny afternoons I’ve been known to draw the curtains, switch on the light and play a CD of rain falling. It creates a sort of quiet, private world which helps writing sometimes.

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